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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: May 7, 2009 3:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not quite what you'd think, but the author must be 'one of us'

I agree Rasta but I can honestly say that if I needed to feed my family I'd do it by any means nescessary and not feel guilty about it. I'm glad to hear you say positive things about the work ethic because I have always believed the VAST majority of immigrants legal or illegal are hard working law abiding people. Sure some are scum but we have plenty of homegrown scum too. See? We can agree on things. I also think it's absolutely retarded to give any public benefits if you're here illegally. NO other Country tolerates that, even way liberal ones. I think every one has a right to emergency care because that's just plain humanity, but Jesus, how could you not be deported right after? Ridiculous.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 7, 2009 3:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not quite what you'd think, but the author must be 'one of us'

In Vermont there are an estimated 2,500 mostly illegal Mexicans working dairy farms around the state.

Ask ANY of the farmers what they would do without them. Every single one will tell you that if not for those workers, who are doing the jobs they could not get locals to do at even a decent wage, their farms would have had to be sold off years ago. These guys work harder in one day than most of us do in a month, and the low wages they get allow us to eat salads that don't cost $24 a bowl.

If the American dream is working hard to make a better life for yourself and your family, why are the Lou Dobbses of the world, who sit around on their fat asses and get paid six figures to talk into a camera for a few hours a day, allowed to drive the debate?

yes, we have to figure out how to accomodate the extra cost for the bodies, but getting here legally takes literally years because the system is not equipped to handle the "huddled masses yearning to breathe free."

So if you were in their position, and you were willing to work your ass off, and met a grateful farmer who was struggling to keep his land that he's had in his family for generations from being sold to a McMansion developer, hell yes, you WOULD haul your ass illegally over the border to make it happen.

Walking a mile in someone else's shoes is hard to do, but if the words on that statue of Liberty are to mean anything at all, they have to be taken at more than just lip service.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: May 7, 2009 4:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not quite what you'd think, but the author must be 'one of us'

" So if you were in their position, and you were willing to work your ass off, and met a grateful farmer who was struggling to keep his land that he's had in his family for generations from being sold to a McMansion developer, hell yes, you WOULD haul your ass illegally over the border to make it happen."

WORD! Couldn't agree more.

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Poster: rastamon Date: May 7, 2009 3:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Not quite what you'd think, but the author must be 'one of us'

lots of Democrat's see it that way, so there is hope.
And I agree on emergency care, then screening for the bad guys and also health screening. Bush & Fox were culprits in allowing such illegal immigration. Even the grate Ronald Reagan gave ammnesty to millions.
(as I'm typing, the 5/7/89 Victim and the Crime is playing)
interesting.